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	<title>Comments on: Andy Hoffman tells CPSIA whiners to &#8220;grow up&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.rescuemarketing.com/blog/2009/01/29/andy-hoffman-grow-up-cpsia-whiners/comment-page-1/#comment-3817</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

Neither of those articles begins to prove your assertion that the industry&#039;s support of lead laws is about putting the small toymaker out of business. 

In fact, I find it hard to believe that Mattel, Hasbro and Lego (et al) even feel a pea under the mattress re: the small handmade toy manufacturers. 

However, time will tell. Clearly those who wrote the law either did so with malice toward small business (doubtful) or didnt bother to think through the consequences of the actions of these laws (what I suspect is more likely).

As for Mr PopTort, he&#039;ll get a break when he starts acting more like a blogger and less like a megaphone. One way communications is not what the web is about - particularly with blogs. That combined with his blog&#039;s astroturfing (comments on his blog that HE wrote under his real name that are made to look as if they came from another person) make it pretty clear that he has little or no interest in the reasoned opinions of others. 

Contrary opinions are fine. Making them in a vacuum is not. 1972 is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>Neither of those articles begins to prove your assertion that the industry&#8217;s support of lead laws is about putting the small toymaker out of business. </p>
<p>In fact, I find it hard to believe that Mattel, Hasbro and Lego (et al) even feel a pea under the mattress re: the small handmade toy manufacturers. </p>
<p>However, time will tell. Clearly those who wrote the law either did so with malice toward small business (doubtful) or didnt bother to think through the consequences of the actions of these laws (what I suspect is more likely).</p>
<p>As for Mr PopTort, he&#8217;ll get a break when he starts acting more like a blogger and less like a megaphone. One way communications is not what the web is about &#8211; particularly with blogs. That combined with his blog&#8217;s astroturfing (comments on his blog that HE wrote under his real name that are made to look as if they came from another person) make it pretty clear that he has little or no interest in the reasoned opinions of others. </p>
<p>Contrary opinions are fine. Making them in a vacuum is not. 1972 is over.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Philips</title>
		<link>http://www.rescuemarketing.com/blog/2009/01/29/andy-hoffman-grow-up-cpsia-whiners/comment-page-1/#comment-3815</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Philips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It occurs to me that you should give this Hoffman fellow a break.  After all, this CPSIA thing has been a wil ride from the start.

Remember, originally, industry groups were pushing hard for greater regulation, including independent lead testing, in part because they wanted to run small businesses out of business. http://tinyurl.com/d9hhol http://tinyurl.com/c95ols

It may be that his thumb-sucking remarks were aimed at the hypocritical bigger business groups--and not at the smaller folks at all.  This has been a very fluid situation from the start.  I mean Waldenberg is now cursing the CPSC (his former best friends) for giving the ATV crowd a delay.  Seriously, everyone is saying inflammatory stuff.  If only we could all just chill and start this conversation over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It occurs to me that you should give this Hoffman fellow a break.  After all, this CPSIA thing has been a wil ride from the start.</p>
<p>Remember, originally, industry groups were pushing hard for greater regulation, including independent lead testing, in part because they wanted to run small businesses out of business. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/d9hhol">http://tinyurl.com/d9hhol</a> <a href="http://tinyurl.com/c95ols">http://tinyurl.com/c95ols</a></p>
<p>It may be that his thumb-sucking remarks were aimed at the hypocritical bigger business groups&#8211;and not at the smaller folks at all.  This has been a very fluid situation from the start.  I mean Waldenberg is now cursing the CPSC (his former best friends) for giving the ATV crowd a delay.  Seriously, everyone is saying inflammatory stuff.  If only we could all just chill and start this conversation over.</p>
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		<title>By: CPSIA chronicles, March 3</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPSIA chronicles, March 3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the letters&#8217; tone (examples of the sorts of letter CJD found too intimidating in tone to run: Mark Riffey, Olivia @ BabyCandyStore). Some other previously linked comments discussions: The Pump Handle [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the letters&#8217; tone (examples of the sorts of letter CJD found too intimidating in tone to run: Mark Riffey, Olivia @ BabyCandyStore). Some other previously linked comments discussions: The Pump Handle [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Idoni</title>
		<link>http://www.rescuemarketing.com/blog/2009/01/29/andy-hoffman-grow-up-cpsia-whiners/comment-page-1/#comment-3677</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather Idoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 06:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may enjoy this Seuss-like spoof on CPSIA --
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.easyfunschool.com/the_CPSIA_meets_Dr_Seuss.html&quot;&gt;Dr. Seuss Meets the CPSIA&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Heather Idonis last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.familyclassroom.net/Articles20091/20090223.html&quot;&gt;Dr. Seuss and the CPSIA, Created for Work, Penmanship&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may enjoy this Seuss-like spoof on CPSIA &#8211;<br />
<a href="http://www.easyfunschool.com/the_CPSIA_meets_Dr_Seuss.html">Dr. Seuss Meets the CPSIA</a></p>
<p><abbr><em>Heather Idonis last blog post..<a href="http://www.familyclassroom.net/Articles20091/20090223.html">Dr. Seuss and the CPSIA, Created for Work, Penmanship</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Shopfloor » Blog Archive &#187; CPSIA Update: Across the Nation, Dislocation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shopfloor » Blog Archive &#187; CPSIA Update: Across the Nation, Dislocation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] friends) chimed in with the thought that critics of the law needed to “grow up” (no, don’t bother commenting). CPSC Commissioner Thomas Moore, hewing to a similar line, blames the ongoing ruckus on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] friends) chimed in with the thought that critics of the law needed to “grow up” (no, don’t bother commenting). CPSC Commissioner Thomas Moore, hewing to a similar line, blames the ongoing ruckus on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CPSIA: fifty stars and an asterisk</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPSIA: fifty stars and an asterisk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 02:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] issue;  Montana: Mark Riffey&#8217;s Business is Personal (Rescue Marketing) has helped focus blog attention; Arizona: &#8220;No way&#8221; Other Mothers resale stores &#8220;can be completely [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] issue;  Montana: Mark Riffey&#8217;s Business is Personal (Rescue Marketing) has helped focus blog attention; Arizona: &#8220;No way&#8221; Other Mothers resale stores &#8220;can be completely [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to have you here, Jeremiah. Thanks for reading - and asking the smart questions:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to have you here, Jeremiah. Thanks for reading &#8211; and asking the smart questions:)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. Good point.

Count me as a subscriber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. Good point.</p>
<p>Count me as a subscriber.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeremiah,

Perhaps. On the other hand, there is now at least one more search result with his name - one that disagrees with his contention. You should NEVER let the opponent do your positioning for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeremiah,</p>
<p>Perhaps. On the other hand, there is now at least one more search result with his name &#8211; one that disagrees with his contention. You should NEVER let the opponent do your positioning for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.rescuemarketing.com/blog/2009/01/29/andy-hoffman-grow-up-cpsia-whiners/comment-page-1/#comment-3596</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He did not post my comment either.  I guess comments from whining mommy bloggers that need to grow up are not allowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He did not post my comment either.  I guess comments from whining mommy bloggers that need to grow up are not allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linking to inflammatory posts by authors who will then ignore commenters with counter-arguments and refuse to post their comments is troll feeding, plain and simple. No need to draw attention to idiocy when they won&#039;t leave room for dialogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linking to inflammatory posts by authors who will then ignore commenters with counter-arguments and refuse to post their comments is troll feeding, plain and simple. No need to draw attention to idiocy when they won&#8217;t leave room for dialogue.</p>
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		<title>By: URBuddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>URBuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy Kaufman, er Hoffman, is obviously walking around with his Tort Attorney blinders on. It&#039;s kinda obvious from the organization&#039;s name -- Center for Justice and Democracy -- that &quot;social justice&quot; is the primary factor in their thinking and not common sense. Organizations that have to include &quot;democracy&quot; in their names remind me of the former Soviet Union client states that all seemed to include that word (that meant nothing to them) in their Country name. His organization wants the Law enforced as written so that they can head to court and do what tort attorneys do, waste oxygen while getting rich on the backs of someone else.

If he was so secure in his position, why not show submitted comments? Maybe it&#039;s because idealogues aren&#039;t equipped to debate or countenance discussion of differing points of view.

In the meantime on Feb. 10th, thousands of small businesses and home based businesses will become criminals operating outside the Law IF they don&#039;t cease and desist carving wooden toy trains or stringing ukuleles or sewing/embroidering Christening gowns!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy Kaufman, er Hoffman, is obviously walking around with his Tort Attorney blinders on. It&#8217;s kinda obvious from the organization&#8217;s name &#8212; Center for Justice and Democracy &#8212; that &#8220;social justice&#8221; is the primary factor in their thinking and not common sense. Organizations that have to include &#8220;democracy&#8221; in their names remind me of the former Soviet Union client states that all seemed to include that word (that meant nothing to them) in their Country name. His organization wants the Law enforced as written so that they can head to court and do what tort attorneys do, waste oxygen while getting rich on the backs of someone else.</p>
<p>If he was so secure in his position, why not show submitted comments? Maybe it&#8217;s because idealogues aren&#8217;t equipped to debate or countenance discussion of differing points of view.</p>
<p>In the meantime on Feb. 10th, thousands of small businesses and home based businesses will become criminals operating outside the Law IF they don&#8217;t cease and desist carving wooden toy trains or stringing ukuleles or sewing/embroidering Christening gowns!</p>
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		<title>By: Wacky Hermit</title>
		<link>http://www.rescuemarketing.com/blog/2009/01/29/andy-hoffman-grow-up-cpsia-whiners/comment-page-1/#comment-3589</link>
		<dc:creator>Wacky Hermit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t help but notice that Hoffman&#039;s post is still showing 0 comments.  I know at least three have been left, including mine.  He probably won&#039;t allow them past moderation, but hopefully we&#039;ll give him an earful!

You must have been calmer than me when you wrote yours.  Here&#039;s what I wrote:
We have to remember that &quot;Consumer&#039;s&quot; Union is conveniently not in the position where they have to work out actual compliance with the laws. It&#039;s really easy to wave your wand and magically make laws workable when you&#039;re not the one who has to do the work.  And when you honestly believe the ones who do have to do the work are eeeeeevil businessmen in top hats and monocles rolling around on piles of money that they got by secretly replacing organic cotton with pure lead for years, you get to feel self-righteous to boot. I wonder what color the unicorns are in their world.

No matter how many times special interest groups say the law is workable or how strongly they word their statements or even how virtuous the speakers are, THIS LAW IS NOT WORKABLE. If there is any justice in the world, those groups that advocated for this law (and are still endorsing it even now that it&#039;s becoming obvious how much this will devastate our economy in the middle of a recession!) will all rot in hell. With every ignorant word they speak they are taking food out of the mouths of my children. I spit on them.

I want my children to be safe, but I personally perceive greater danger to them from groups like &quot;Consumer&#039;s&quot; Union and USPRIG (sic) and from laws like CPSIA than from lead-containing toys.  I can teach them to avoid lead-containing toys, but I can&#039;t protect them from power-grubbing self-righteous know-nothing do-gooders who have their hands down the pants of Congress.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Wacky Hermits last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/OrganicBabyFarm/~3/525486375/my-letter-to-rep-rush.html&quot;&gt;My Letter To Rep. Rush&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t help but notice that Hoffman&#8217;s post is still showing 0 comments.  I know at least three have been left, including mine.  He probably won&#8217;t allow them past moderation, but hopefully we&#8217;ll give him an earful!</p>
<p>You must have been calmer than me when you wrote yours.  Here&#8217;s what I wrote:<br />
We have to remember that &#8220;Consumer&#8217;s&#8221; Union is conveniently not in the position where they have to work out actual compliance with the laws. It&#8217;s really easy to wave your wand and magically make laws workable when you&#8217;re not the one who has to do the work.  And when you honestly believe the ones who do have to do the work are eeeeeevil businessmen in top hats and monocles rolling around on piles of money that they got by secretly replacing organic cotton with pure lead for years, you get to feel self-righteous to boot. I wonder what color the unicorns are in their world.</p>
<p>No matter how many times special interest groups say the law is workable or how strongly they word their statements or even how virtuous the speakers are, THIS LAW IS NOT WORKABLE. If there is any justice in the world, those groups that advocated for this law (and are still endorsing it even now that it&#8217;s becoming obvious how much this will devastate our economy in the middle of a recession!) will all rot in hell. With every ignorant word they speak they are taking food out of the mouths of my children. I spit on them.</p>
<p>I want my children to be safe, but I personally perceive greater danger to them from groups like &#8220;Consumer&#8217;s&#8221; Union and USPRIG (sic) and from laws like CPSIA than from lead-containing toys.  I can teach them to avoid lead-containing toys, but I can&#8217;t protect them from power-grubbing self-righteous know-nothing do-gooders who have their hands down the pants of Congress.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Wacky Hermits last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/OrganicBabyFarm/~3/525486375/my-letter-to-rep-rush.html">My Letter To Rep. Rush</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: marianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>marianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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